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Barack Obama's Speech on Race

from DipPolitics added 18 March, 2008 at 06:07 PM

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Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Alero said: Dave appears to be yet another victim of the senseless war; might it be that you have become disillusioned dave? Anger is okay, but its how you express it that matters.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Dewey said: Dear Dave While I respect your service to our wonderful country and the freedoms to which you help ensure; please be original in your comments and not 'borrow' a quote from Jack Nicholson's character in "A Few Good Men" and pretend to pass it off as your own.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Lockett said: To Dave: "get it right lockett, I do despise these morons for their rank and file stupidity over a broad platform of hope, which as you point out has absolutely no substinance whatsoever, I will protect them, their freedom of speech(no matter how absurd), their freedom to insult me, and their families so can sleep at night. I don’t want to shoot them but I do despise them. Most liberals in general believe the world should be a garden of Eden, yet denounce religion ( mainly Christianity) yet run wild eyed into the streets to bow at the alter of some vague idea of hope and change. Everytime I hear the mantra three things come to mind: Jonestown, Waco, and heaven’s gate. Hope is a great thing, but as with anything, should be taken in moderation. The more you lap it up the worse the hangover will be when you find out that obama isn’t the be all and end all savior of the world. You cry about illegal war this illegal war that. Do you have the mental capacity to understand that you are just repeating the liberal anti-war sentiment. Unity is also a convenient slogan. You people couldn’t agree with a conservative on the color of shit if you were neck deep in it. Had the liberals put all their animosity for President Bush into taking truly unified stand in Iraq we would most likely be alot further along. Instead you want to subvert and play the game of gotcha at every opportunity. Now you roll out unity and change for 08. Where were you five years ago? Tom this is my outlet. Matt you are as dumb as a post. And I apologize to posts everywhere. You claim I don’t support any of my ideas( I did ) and yet end you argument with “obama transmits a message of hope and change”. Where the f**k is the support for that? Because he said so? For those of you concerned about war costs. Cost of one aircraft carrier per day to maintain operation southern watch: one million per day for 10 years. Oh and for those of you that think this war has lasted too long: we still have troops in Bosnia from when bill sent them in the mid 90’s. For those of you on the cusp of conversion: Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don’t have that problem. Ronald Reagan-1985 Freedom isn’t free, but don’t worry the Marines will pay most of you share. Ned Dolan Marines die. That’s what we’re here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. That means you live forever. GnySgt R Lee Ermy as GnySgt Hartman. Full Metal Jacket-1987" See, that's my problem with your comments. You regard people who don't agree with you as subhuman, as being "dumber than posts". You despise them, regarding them as the scum of the earth. I, on the other hand, feel pity for people so easily swayed by the charisma of one man - it's like Hitler's popularity in the 30s(no, I am not compariing Obama to Hitler - I am comparing their similar charisma and popularity). The truth is that they are liberals - I don't understand that ideology, anyway, but that has no bearing on the subject - and, given the choice between the charismatic Obama or the creepy Clinton, would rather pick the former. McCain may not be entirely conservative, but he isn't anywhere near as liberal as the Democrats. Also, I know a Marine, and he'd be ashamed of your use of that venerated military division as basis for imaginary superiority over imaginary retards. Don't get me wrong, I agree with most of your opinions. It's your presentation of them and your idea that liberals are inherently inferior that riles me. I could call it "political bigotry". To DetroitRedd: "I thought the speech was excellent. I t hink it was unfair that you have to give a speech on remarks that were not your own but rather someone whom you have grown to trust and admire. What happened to Freedom of Speech? I don’t think you nor Pastor Wright would have been scrutinized if you weren’t black. I’m waiting to see what other dirty tricks are going be pulled. God Bless You Obama! Keep your head up!" Actually, they would be scrutinized even more if they were white. If anything, they're being DEFENDED by the mainstream liberal media(yes, I used those words in conjunction - to distinguish it from the less-prominent conservative media). Also, freedom of speech is law(well, unless you're sued by the ACLU, he-he), but bigotry is bigotry. Do YOU agree with Wright's statements? Do YOU think that they're worth defending?
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

DetroitRedd said: I thought the speech was excellent. I t hink it was unfair that you have to give a speech on remarks that were not your own but rather someone whom you have grown to trust and admire. What happened to Freedom of Speech? I don't think you nor Pastor Wright would have been scrutinized if you weren't black. I'm waiting to see what other dirty tricks are going be pulled. God Bless You Obama! Keep your head up!
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Dave said: get it right lockett, I do despise these morons for their rank and file stupidity over a broad platform of hope, which as you point out has absolutely no substinance whatsoever, I will protect them, their freedom of speech(no matter how absurd), their freedom to insult me, and their families so can sleep at night. I don't want to shoot them but I do despise them. Most liberals in general believe the world should be a garden of Eden, yet denounce religion ( mainly Christianity) yet run wild eyed into the streets to bow at the alter of some vague idea of hope and change. Everytime I hear the mantra three things come to mind: Jonestown, Waco, and heaven's gate. Hope is a great thing, but as with anything, should be taken in moderation. The more you lap it up the worse the hangover will be when you find out that obama isn't the be all and end all savior of the world. You cry about illegal war this illegal war that. Do you have the mental capacity to understand that you are just repeating the liberal anti-war sentiment. Unity is also a convenient slogan. You people couldn't agree with a conservative on the color of shit if you were neck deep in it. Had the liberals put all their animosity for President Bush into taking truly unified stand in Iraq we would most likely be alot further along. Instead you want to subvert and play the game of gotcha at every opportunity. Now you roll out unity and change for 08. Where were you five years ago? Tom this is my outlet. Matt you are as dumb as a post. And I apologize to posts everywhere. You claim I don't support any of my ideas( I did ) and yet end you argument with "obama transmits a message of hope and change". Where the f**k is the support for that? Because he said so? For those of you concerned about war costs. Cost of one aircraft carrier per day to maintain operation southern watch: one million per day for 10 years. Oh and for those of you that think this war has lasted too long: we still have troops in Bosnia from when bill sent them in the mid 90's. For those of you on the cusp of conversion: Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan-1985 Freedom isn't free, but don't worry the Marines will pay most of you share. Ned Dolan Marines die. That's what we're here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. That means you live forever. GnySgt R Lee Ermy as GnySgt Hartman. Full Metal Jacket-1987
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Lockett said: Never mind the war in Iraq, never mind Iran's increasing hostility toward the USA, never mind government corruption - the real issue is race! Race my butt. It would beat Obama in a race anyway. Has anybody actually noticed the fact that Obama hasn't actually said ANYTHING about ANY of his positions, except that he stands for "change" and "hope"? Heck, I stand for change and hope. Do I have the political prowess needed to run a country? NO - otherwise, I'd run for the presidency. Seriously, Obama has the weakest platform that I've ever seen in an election. He doesn't say WHAT he's going to change, he doesn't say HOW he's going to change it, and he doesn't even say WHY it even needs to be changed in the first place! None of these commenters even approach sanity. On one end, there are the people like Danny Murphy who think that Obama's a god on earth, and, on the other end, there are people like Dave who think that anybody who supports Obama is a retard and should be shot. Then, there's the apocalyptic prophet Matt, who says that Bush is practically Satan for outing Saddam Hussein(I agree that the war in Iraq has been dragged out past its expiration date, but one less dictator is one better country), and that he has also managed to drive the American economy into the ground(never mind that it's loads better than it was under Clinton). If he wants a REAL inept president, he should check out Carter. Why am I the only one who recognizes that Obama is nothing more than political hyperbole with a lot of style and zero substance? Why am I the only one who even tries to be objective, who even bothers to honestly question Obama's ideas and character, who is actually skeptical without being stupid?
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Matt said: Obama's speech was good, but people like Dave, who claim a mental superiority in regards to others, and provide no support for the ideas they propose I just cannot understand. Good for you for being in the military and makuing something with your life, but supposting an unpopular, illegal war is not the smart thing to do for America. It is with a reason that America's standing in the world has fallen to all time lows. It is the insane spending on the war and foreign policy that buries the economy under huge deficit.... Obama transmits a message of hope, of change in the way politics are carried out in Washington, and after the current administration all change is welcomed.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Tom said: Hey Dave, Good thing you are relieving these supposed brothers in arms. Because you are one very angry man that needs an outlet.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Dave said: sorry there haji, I was at work earning your check at 2:30. Prejudiced yes, but I am an equal opportunity offender. I hate stupid people like you. I don't care what color you are. Most of you are in violation of the law. Darwin's law that is. You espouse "free choice". Of course you narrowly relegate it to abortion. When we try to get "free choice" for education, retirement, medical, taxes, the second amendment, and many more which you liberals vehemently deny us. You use your activist judges to go against the will of the majority. And you are in the same camp with the spineless city government of berkley. You don't like my words, yet I am the one on the wall protecting your first amendment rights. We in the military despise you. You sleep comfortably under the blanket of freedom we provide you, wake up in the morning and stab us in the back with your anti-war protests and your anti-war candidate. Your "lack of unity" with us is what had drug this war on. Your protesting against this war has run up the casualties. Your crying about waterboarding is why I have dead friends. You embolden them to hold out just a little longer, to kill one more Marine or soldier. They chant "Yes We Can!!!!" because you say we can't. You give them the "Audacity of Hope", because with all your talk of unity and change you give them the courage to pull the trigger one more day. You give them comfort and aid. Liberals are the most devise intolorant lot I have ever had the displeasure to deal with. This Christmas while you celebrate with your friends and family know that I will be on my way to relieve my brothers in arms who are in harms way. Sleep well I will be there for you and your ilk.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Dhij said: Dave are you a prejudiced dummy or what? Many of Obama's supporters, including myself, do have jobs and pay taxes. We live, we learn, and we love. We don't make assumptions on someone's life based on who they support and then try to demean a person or diminish their accomplishments. I don't even think there is such a thing as government cheese anymore. So you put down the drugs you abuse and let go of the hatred and prejudice in your heart.
 

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