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What To Do With Hillary Clinton

from DipPolitics added 2 June, 2008 at 02:22 PM

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john-devore
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I recently opined on how I don’t believe in conspiracy theories. I’d like to briefly add that “facts” aren’t always the “truth.”

Intelligence, it has been said, is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time. Facts often times contradict each other. Consider that there are some environmental scientists who claim the Earth isheating up, and some who say an ice age is imminent.

Both scientific camps have research, models, and facts to back up their assertion.

The truth is, the Earth is changing. And human industry is helping to accelerate this process, which might or might not be part of the natural cycle of the planet.

A well-respected, conservative blog has abetted a rumor that suggests that Senator Hillary Clinton might run as an Independent. It is just a rumor, and it could be a rumor invented by the opposition to further exploit the fissures in the Democratic Party.

There will never be a third party. But that’s not saying both political parties are immortal. Just because the system will not accept a powerful third party doesn’t mean that one party cannot be usurped by another. It doesn’t mean that political fratricide cannot occur.

Allegedly encouraged by so-called Independent Democrat Joseph Lieberman, the idea that Hillary Clinton would run as an independent is stunning. Embittered by what they see as graceless revolt, the Clintons no doubt enjoy the fear inspired by this rumor and the idea of them transforming themselves into the Democratic version of Ross Perot.

Senator Lieberman, a hawk who won as an Independent and caucuses with the Democrats, still stings over his state party, flush with future Obama-ites, who kicked him off their ticket. No doubt he likewise enjoys this rumor. There are those in the Democratic Party who resent the arrogance of the elitist, coastal MoveOn.org set.

But Senator Hillary Clinton won’t run as an Independent. While she might fight for Vice President, at this point it would seem like weakness, or capitulation to blackmail, for Barack Obama to accept her on the ticket.

Former New York Governor Mario Cuomo would like to see this ticket. Many wouldn’t.

The old southern nucleus of the Democratic Party, those who didn’t abandon the party after Southern President Lyndon Johnson seemingly betrayed the last remnants of the Jim Crow South by pushing through civil rights laws, have been cordoned off by the Clinton campaign. This group, made up of die-hard Clinton supporters — white working class women and establishment Baby Boomers — has formed an alliance with election tipping clout.

They solidified a base alienated by the modern Democratic Party.

Let’s ignore facts and speculation for a moment. Barack Obama is the nominee. Hillary Clinton doesn’t want history to remember her as the woman who nuked her own party.

Let’s focus on the truth: a house divided cannot stand.

Barack Obama cannot win if the Clinton tribe is not engaged. And the question will be, how to engage them?

How does a party divided heal itself? Or will 2008 be like 2004 — an election where the Republicans don’t win so much as the Democrats lost?

Here are two opposed thoughts we must hold in our mind at the same time — the Democrats don’t want to win with Hillary Clinton but they cannot win without her.

John DeVore

avatar john-devore wrote 1 year and 5 months ago

 

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Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Charles said: After reading the comments of self proclaimed smart Americans ,I now believe that most are idiots!!! We Germany (Europeans) believe that most of you uneducated angry crazy fools will be used by rebublicans posing as Democrates on line (angry Clinton supporters) and persuading voters to vote for that old bad tempered war man named Macain. The world is already thinking positive of USA because of an inspiring candidate like Obama. Now I believe why most Clinton supporters are scum heads who can be easily fooled by Rebublicans who have pulled a great nation like USA so low that if they elect Macain, we Europeans will pull back and laugh at your ignorant and stupidity!!!(I guess you dont even care, fools!!!) However I know that young and smart Americans will see the light and go with change (Obama)as the world wants change. My advise for positive thinking Americans is to post comments on blogs advising Clinton supporters that hard core Rebublicans are disguising as democrates on line to fool them as they are illitrates and can be easily fooled . FRom Bavaria Germany.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

OBAMA_ROCKS! said: I JUST WANT TO SAY NOBAMA 08! and he is losing to MY MAN JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN. A real american not some leftwing nutjob like all of you on here. You fuckin liberal hippies go fuckin ruin another country, trying to elect the most liberal man in the senate a man who is friends with racist antiamericans, and fuckin terrorist to. FUCK U GO MCCAIN!
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Dave said: The truth about Barack Obama life as a Black Liberation Theologist will come to light as will the truth of his church being nothing more than the nation of islam by another name. He's has two nation of islam members employed on his senate staff. This country will not succumb to the sedition that Barack and Louis Farrakahn have planned with malice aforethought. The only thing Barack Obama will succede in changing is change itself by defeating our nation's best hope for change and serving to get John McCain elected for a 3rd Bush term. Thanks Obama, you are a traitor.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Tachea said: I don't think Hillary and Bill included would be a good choice for the VP for Obama she would try to still the spotlight all of the time, and their heads would butt on every issue. I also didn't like the asssasination comment Hillary made, and i didn't like any of Bill comments toward Obama. Hillary & Bill are sore losers, and come with a lot of baggage its time for a real change, and they don't signify that at all. Obama needs to consider this or we'll have a third term of George Bush.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Tevlen said: While I agree partially with the first poster (the watch his back thing), many democrats, especially the die hard Obama supporters are ignoring the threat of John McCain. This is a mistake. John McCain is the most moderate republican to run for president in modern history, and to ignore his ability to take independents and dissatisfied moderate democrats is a terrible mistake that can only lead to a loss in november. McCain and Hillary have been called "very close friends" in the past, and withouth Hillary's help, Obama would face a harder fight, since many of the democrats that supported her are easy targets for McCain. Regardless of the position she holds, she must be closley involved in some way with the Obama campaign, be it VP or Supreme court, or whatever other position Obama deems worthy for her. She is a very valuable tool against the very worthy candidate that is Mr. John McCain.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Anselm Fernandez said: There are so many cool options now..... one nice one: Sen. Obama & Gen. Wesley Clark vs John McCain and whatever loser :)!
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Brian said: If I'm not mistaken, there is no way that Hillary Clinton could run for the Presidency as and Independent. I am fairly certain that FEC election laws say that a person who loses in a party campaign can NOT run for the same position as an Independent in the same election year.
 

Archive said 1 year and 1 month ago:

Victoria said: I understand how you came to your conclusion, but I am entirely opposed to Barak Obama asking Clinton to run with him as the Vice Presidential candidate. No way!!! There are several options for her within the party other than the VP position. She could be appointed to the Supreme Court, which seems to be a great plan. Why? Because she has sone so much damage to her image in the African American community that I honestly believe her Senate seat could wind up gone the next time she has to "pander" to the brothers & sistes back in New York. Trust me, Black folks have LONG memories and the way Hillary & Bill have exploited the race card will live on in infamy within the Black community pretty much forever. So I say put that crazy heifer on the Supreme Court...but PLEASE in the name of everything decent do NOT NOT NOT put her on the ticket with Obama. He would spend the next 8 years watching his back, not to mention being forced to hire a food taster. She's just that self centered, evil & twisted. Don't believe me? Think back to those "Bobby Kennedy assassination" comments. This is a do anything, say anything to get what I want kind of dame. Put her out to pasture on the Supreme Court and be DONE with her!! If Obama is simply looking for a female running mate, let him look to the Gov. of Kansas or Claire McKaskill. But stay away from Hillary, she's just not worthy.
 

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